Corruption. Government Tax Cuts For Big Business. No advantages for the common people.

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Why many big companies DON”T pay corporate tax!!!

Owen Guns Bulletin February Edition 141, 2018

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Thoughts For The Week.

“What you do in your lifetime will echo down through eternity”,
Marcus Aurelius

For the last two weeks our NBN, (No Bloody Network) has been causing us immense disruptions to our normal business. Apparently, it has affected our whole area. We only went to NBN due to the threat that if we did not we would be cut off from our service that we had enjoyed at these premises since 1986, so September 2017 was when we had a month of problems at its inception and now again it has reared its head.

What makes it worse, our old Australian suppliers, betrayed us and sold out to a company that runs its technical support from somewhere near India. Every day we get another different Indian expert that want to re configure our computers and fix the problem, due to English not being their first language communications are confused. Each expert is unaware of the changes that were made on the previous day and adds to the confusion. The Telecommunications Ombudsman has not helped, Telstra say they can help, but as they are having problems in the area with NBN they say we have to wait 10 weeks.

So we have a new Mobile Number 0427 943 677,

Please call, 07 54 825070 this number is still working,

07 54824099 has been diverted to the Mobile number.

Our Internet and Email owenguns@spiderweb.com.au is working, but

Our Fax line 0754824718 is Not working.

This has caused immense problems for PTA’s (Permits To Aquire) and exposed another problem with our firearm legislation and the police policy that they additionally impose on us.

Immediately we knew that the Fax machine had stopped we contacted Weapons Licencing and asked them to stop sending faxed copies of Permits to Acquire we asked them to hold them until we have it working again. A few days later I phoned Weapons Licencing again and asked them to email the PTAs as attachments, in .pdf or any other format, they refused.

As that refusal affects all licenced shooter in the State of Queensland. Here below is a report and request for action to my local Member of the House of Representatives Mr Tony Perrett.

“Dear Tony

On behalf of our long patient customers that have been waiting for PTA Permits To Acquire, could you please direct a question in the house to the Police Minister,

As you are aware the time taken for Weapons Licensing to issue the Permits to Acquire is in most cases many weeks, sometimes many months, their phone robots when answering enquires tells people not to phone them for 12 weeks as they are busy.

For people who have to wait 28 days cooling off period after they have already waited 28 days extended to six months waiting for QPS to process their card its intolerable, but its takes many weeks longer than this in most cases. For those who already have a firearm on there licence the regulations state “the period is the remainder of the day on which the applicant lodged the application” This leaves Weapons Licensing in breach of the Act and Regulations and if this was a dealer and they did not process their information back to QPS on time they would charge us.

Weapons Licensing to attempt to process this disaster a little quicker have over the last few years taken to faxing the PTA forms to the Gun Shops.

Due to the un reliability of NBN and phone lines in general sometime they do not arrive. Weapons Licensing have in the past refused to send them again, and even local Policemen have been forced to re apply and send the money again.

Since last Monday this area (Gympie) has had a huge problem with NBN and the Fax is the first to fail. It became so intermittent and haphazard we asked Weapons licensing to stop faxing PTAs. On Monday (last) Weapons Licensing emailed an attachment with a letter Authorising them to release 15 firearms to a Customer. We complied with this and today with customers asking if we had their PTAs, I phoned Weapons Licensing and spoke to Steve, I asked him, as we have no NBN fax could you please email the PTA s as an attachment, he refused and I asked who was in charge He said AP Guild Inspector, I asked to speak to him he said that was not possible, but that they would not email the attachments . So I asked him to post all of them out as the fax is not reliable.

Weapons Act 1990

Section 39

(4)A permit to acquire must—

(a)be issued in the approved form for a single weapon; and

The Attachments for Email can do this just as good as a fax.

I have included This section of the Weapons Act so that you can see that for most people there should be no waiting period they should be emailed out on the remainder of the day the application is lodged. They (Weapons Licencing) are in breach of the Weapons Act 1990 and should be charged.

101 Waiting period for decision on application for permit to acquire

(1)This section prescribes the period for section 42 of the Act .

(2)The period is 28 days after the day the applicant lodged the application for the permit to acquire the weapon.

(3)However, the period is the remainder of the day on which the applicant lodged the application for the permit, if—

(a)the applicant already holds a firearm under a licence; or

(b)an authorised officer is satisfied there are exceptional circumstances.

Could you please ask the Minister why this has not happened as yet.

Your Ron Owen JP (Qual)

Please phone 07 54 825070 if you need any further information.

Ron”

End the PTA system.

Why must gun owners be punished for the actions of crooks?

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But yet again, no mention of why flintlock muzzle-loading pistols are on a restrictive H class licence?!!! Crooks don’t use these at all!!!
Firearms associations have failed Australian gun owners! We don’t ask much, we just want a fair go & sensible gun laws that DO NOT punish/penalise law abiding gun owners.

https://www.gympietimes.com.au/news/why-must-gun-owners-be-punished-for-the-actions-of/3331954/

Growing Your Own Food. New Garden Beds.

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Growing your own food is a must for future survival, you can’t trust foods from overseas, & Australia & the UK are producing less & less of our own foods! If it all hits the fan, there will be no foods to purchase, it will be a matter of grow or forage or starve.

Recently we put in a new berry patch for growing Boysenberries & Young berries, & we added another pumpkin patch ready for next spring.

We have a lot of regrowth tree saplings to get rid of for fire safety, so we spent some time cutting & mulching for the new berry patch.

The newly plowed & composted pumpkin patch.

Keeping Food Cool with no electricity.

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We live off grid in a forest, now we have solar power, but for over 20 years we lived with no electricity. I built a coolgardie safe to keep our foods cool.

A coolgardie safe is basically a box with open sides, back & front with a door. The front back & sides are covered in hessian made from old feed sacks. On top of this box is a tray of water. The hessian overlaps into this water tray & the water soaks down through the hessian sides & keeps the inside cool.

A spring house is a building built over or below a spring so that the water flows though this building & keeps the inside cool.

Thoughts for The Week By Ron Owen. Firearms, The Law, & Equality

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Persecution.
We all should question why over 2 million licensed shooters in Australia, people who are the pillars of our community, who have had the most stringent background checks, paid thousands of dollars for licences, safety courses, and security are the most bullied members of our community. (

Does Melbourne Australia Have an African Gang Problem? (2018)

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The Australian government has left citizens defenceless through it’s policy of unarmed self defence. It is illegal in Australia to purchase or posses anything specifically intended for self defence or defence of one’s family, this includes no capsicum sprays, no tasers, no guns, no anything! This is backed by the UN Human Rights committee! I see this as a crime against the people, the government is putting our lives at risk in a society where home invasions & attacks on the streets appears to be on the increase. The Australian government appears to put the welfare of criminals far above the welfare of the common people.

NRA-ILA | Australia: Queensland’s Labor Party Government Targets MP for Gun Control Heresy

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NRA-ILA | Australia: Queensland’s Labor Party Government Targets MP for Gun Control Heresy: The sorry state of gun politics in Australia was put into stark relief recently, after Liberal National Party (LNP) Queensland Legislative Assembly MP Anthony Perrett took a principled stand in favor of his constituents’ gun rights.

Bugging Out Equipment List. WHAT & WHY.

I decided to post this because when I read lists of other people’s modern equipment for bugging out I often see items that I can’t make sense of. Items that are NOT sustainable & seem of very little use. Some say “well I use this until it breaks & then I throw it away”. The problem with that is that this equipment has taken up room, added weight to the pack, can leave sign to track you by if you don’t dispose of it properly, & meanwhile you could have used this space & weight to either carry a better piece of equipment, or you could have left it out & saved room & weight. If you can afford to throw it away, then you don’t need it in the first place.

Anyway, here is my list. Please feel free to comment, different people sometimes see things in a different way & I like to hear other people’s point of view.

My Equipment List. WHAT & WHY.

.62 cal/20 gauge flintlock fusil. 42 inch barrel.

Why?  Large calibre smoothbore has a lot of knock down power with a round ball, very versatile using bird shot, buckshot, or round ball or a combination of any two of these, able to use other projectiles found in nature, only requires a siliceous rock for ignition which can be found in nature, the lock is easy to repair, if the lock breaks & there are no spare parts I can use it as a matchlock or tinderlock & keep using it, I can use the lock to make fire without the use of gunpowder, I can make my own black powder, I can retrieve spent lead from shot game & reuse it, I can mould my own round ball & shot.

.70 caliber smoothbore flintlock pistol.

Why? Same as above fusil, light to carry, easy to use, good for a back-up & self defence.

Gun tools and spare lock parts.

Why? To keep my firearms working long term.

Shot pouch and contents.

Why? For maintaining & using my firearms.

Leather drawstring pouch of .60 caliber ball (in knapsack).

Why? Back-up supply.

Powder horn.

Why? For carrying gunpowder for immediate use with firearms.

Ball mould, swan shot mould & Lead ladle.

Why? So I can reuse spent lead by remoulding.

5 Gunpowder wallets.

Why? For carrying extra gunpowder, the leather wallet is lighter than a powder horn, once empty they are good for storing spare tinder for fire lighting.

Butcher/Hunting knife.

Why? A good basic working knife made for skinning & butchering game, good self defence knife, long blade but light to carry & use.

Legging knife.

Why? Good back-up knife for hunting & self defence, easy to access, light to use & carry.

Clasp knife.

Why? Good back-up knife, mainly used for camp chores, making kettle hooks, making trap parts, easy to carry.

Tomahawk.

Why? Lighter than a modern hatchet, the helve fits in a round or oval eye & is easy to make in a wilderness situation, the helve can easily be removed to use the head on its own for making a new helve or scraping hides for making leather or rawhide, good for trap making, good for hammering, can be thrown for hunting, defence, offence & entertainment.

Fire bag.

Why? Greased leather waterproof  bag for keeping my tinderbox & contents dry.

Tinderbox.

Why? For preparing plant & fungi tinders for flint & steel fire lighting, contains prepared tinder for fire lighting, is used for fire lighting by striking sparks into the tinderbox.

Flint & Steel. (NOTE: Not a ferocerium rod).

Why? For making fire. This method is sustainable long term.

Belt pouch.

Why? This pouch is carried on the waist belt at all times & contains my fire bag, my fishing tackle container, my sundial compass & my fire steel/striker which is tied to the pouch buckle.

Fishing tackle in brass container.

Why? For fishing & for trapping fowl.

Two brass snares.

Why? Small game snares for trapping .

Roll of brass snare wire.

Spare wire for making small game snares, can be used for making leaders for angling, can be used for repair work.

Knapsack.

Main pack for carrying equipment & food supplies, carries my blanket roll & oil cloth shelter & secures my market wallet.

Scrip.

Why? This haversack is carried just for foraging purposes. I often forage along the trail when trekking.

Market Wallet.

Why? This is secured under the flap closure of my knapsack & is used to carry extra items. This wallet can also be carried indendently.

Tin Cup.

Why? For drinking tea & eating food.

Kettle (Billy Can).

Why? For boiling water for sterilising & making tea, for cooking.

Water filter bags (cotton & linen bags).

Why? For filtering dirty drinking water before boiling, light & compact & easy to carry, unbreakable.

Medical pouch.

Why? Contains medical equipment & supplies, lighter than a hard container, easy to pack & carry in my knapsack near the top.

Housewife.

Why? This is my sewing kit for making repairs to clothing, making moccasins, needles can be used to remove splinters & if necessary to stitch wounds.

Piece of soap and a broken ivory comb.

Why? For bathing & looking after my hair.

Dried foods in bags.

Why? Dried foods are lighter to carry, easy to pack & preserve well for long periods.

Wooden spoon.

Why? For cooking & eating, light to carry.

Compass.

Why? A compass makes it easier to tell direction on very overcast days & nights, makes it easier to maintain a straight direction & travel quicker.

Whet stone.

Why? For keeping my blades sharp, for working on gun lock parts if needed.

Small metal file.

Why? Same as whet stone above.

Oilcloth.

Why? The oil cloth is for making a quick shelter, easy to set up & versatile, enables me to use a fire for cooking & warmth close to my bed, can be used as a rain coat, can be used for water collection, can be used to make a boat, gives me more vision around me & an easy exit if needed.

One pure wool blanket (Monmouth cap, spare wool waistcoat and wool shirt rolled inside blanket).

Why? The blanket roll is easy to carry, does not restrict my movement/escape at night like a sleeping bag will, can be used as a matchcoat, can be used as a Great Coat, retains body warmth even when wet, light to carry.

Spare pair of moccasins.

Why? To wear if my other pair get wet, to wear whilst I make repairs on the other pair, to wear if the other moccasins need replacing & whilst I make a new pair.

Two water canteens.

Why? For carrying drinking water.

Bottle of rum.

Why? Only a small bottle but I like a tot of rum & it helps me relax a little.

Bugging Out Equipment List. WHAT & WHY.

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I decided to post this because when I read lists of other people’s modern equipment for bugging out I often see items that I can’t make sense of. Items that are NOT sustainable & seem of very little use. Some say “well I use this until it breaks & then I throw it away”. The problem with that is that this equipment has taken up room, added weight to the pack, can leave sign to track you by if you don’t dispose of it properly, & meanwhile you could have used this space & weight to either carry a better piece of equipment, or you could have left it out & saved room & weight. If you can afford to throw it away, then you don’t need it in the first place.

Anyway, here is my list. Please feel free to comment, different people sometimes see things in a different way & I like to hear other people’s point of view.

My Equipment List. WHAT & WHY.

.62 cal/20 gauge flintlock fusil. 42 inch barrel.

Why?  Large calibre smoothbore has a lot of knock down power with a round ball, very versatile using bird shot, buckshot, or round ball or a combination of any two of these, able to use other projectiles found in nature, only requires a siliceous rock for ignition which can be found in nature, the lock is easy to repair, if the lock breaks & there are no spare parts I can use it as a matchlock or tinderlock & keep using it, I can use the lock to make fire without the use of gunpowder, I can make my own black powder, I can retrieve spent lead from shot game & reuse it, I can mould my own round ball & shot.

.70 caliber smoothbore flintlock pistol.

Why? Same as above fusil, light to carry, easy to use, good for a back-up & self defence.

Gun tools and spare lock parts.

Why? To keep my firearms working long term.

Shot pouch and contents.

Why? For maintaining & using my firearms.

Leather drawstring pouch of .60 caliber ball (in knapsack).

Why? Back-up supply.

Powder horn.

Why? For carrying gunpowder for immediate use with firearms.

Ball mould, swan shot mould & Lead ladle.

Why? So I can reuse spent lead by remoulding.

5 Gunpowder wallets.

Why? For carrying extra gunpowder, the leather wallet is lighter than a powder horn, once empty they are good for storing spare tinder for fire lighting.

Butcher/Hunting knife.

Why? A good basic working knife made for skinning & butchering game, good self defence knife, long blade but light to carry & use.

Legging knife.

Why? Good back-up knife for hunting & self defence, easy to access, light to use & carry.

Clasp knife.

Why? Good back-up knife, mainly used for camp chores, making kettle hooks, making trap parts, easy to carry.

Tomahawk.

Why? Lighter than a modern hatchet, the helve fits in a round or oval eye & is easy to make in a wilderness situation, the helve can easily be removed to use the head on its own for making a new helve or scraping hides for making leather or rawhide, good for trap making, good for hammering, can be thrown for hunting, defence, offence & entertainment.

Fire bag.

Why? Greased leather waterproof  bag for keeping my tinderbox & contents dry.

Tinderbox.

Why? For preparing plant & fungi tinders for flint & steel fire lighting, contains prepared tinder for fire lighting, is used for fire lighting by striking sparks into the tinderbox.

Flint & Steel. (NOTE: Not a ferocerium rod).

Why? For making fire. This method is sustainable long term.

Belt pouch.

Why? This pouch is carried on the waist belt at all times & contains my fire bag, my fishing tackle container, my sundial compass & my fire steel/striker which is tied to the pouch buckle.

Fishing tackle in brass container.

Why? For fishing & for trapping fowl.

Two brass snares.

Why? Small game snares for trapping .

Roll of brass snare wire.

Spare wire for making small game snares, can be used for making leaders for angling, can be used for repair work.

Knapsack.

Main pack for carrying equipment & food supplies, carries my blanket roll & oil cloth shelter & secures my market wallet.

Scrip.

Why? This haversack is carried just for foraging purposes. I often forage along the trail when trekking.

Market Wallet.

Why? This is secured under the flap closure of my knapsack & is used to carry extra items. This wallet can also be carried indendently.

Tin Cup.

Why? For drinking tea & eating food.

Kettle (Billy Can).

Why? For boiling water for sterilising & making tea, for cooking.

Water filter bags (cotton & linen bags).

Why? For filtering dirty drinking water before boiling, light & compact & easy to carry, unbreakable.

Medical pouch.

Why? Contains medical equipment & supplies, lighter than a hard container, easy to pack & carry in my knapsack near the top.

Housewife.

Why? This is my sewing kit for making repairs to clothing, making moccasins, needles can be used to remove splinters & if necessary to stitch wounds.

Piece of soap and a broken ivory comb.

Why? For bathing & looking after my hair.

Dried foods in bags.

Why? Dried foods are lighter to carry, easy to pack & preserve well for long periods.

Wooden spoon.

Why? For cooking & eating, light to carry.

Compass.

Why? A compass makes it easier to tell direction on very overcast days & nights, makes it easier to maintain a straight direction & travel quicker.

Whet stone.

Why? For keeping my blades sharp, for working on gun lock parts if needed.

Small metal file.

Why? Same as whet stone above.

Oilcloth.

Why? The oil cloth is for making a quick shelter, easy to set up & versatile, enables me to use a fire for cooking & warmth close to my bed, can be used as a rain coat, can be used for water collection, can be used to make a boat, gives me more vision around me & an easy exit if needed.

One pure wool blanket (Monmouth cap, spare wool waistcoat and wool shirt rolled inside blanket).

Why? The blanket roll is easy to carry, does not restrict my movement/escape at night like a sleeping bag will, can be used as a matchcoat, can be used as a Great Coat, retains body warmth even when wet, light to carry.

Spare pair of moccasins.

Why? To wear if my other pair get wet, to wear whilst I make repairs on the other pair, to wear if the other moccasins need replacing & whilst I make a new pair.

Two water canteens.

Why? For carrying drinking water.

Bottle of rum.

Why? Only a small bottle but I like a tot of rum & it helps me relax a little.

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION.

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This is a sawn-off pump action Breech-Loading shotgun seized by police from criminals, this is what criminals use. They do NOT use black powder muzzle-loading pistols. So why are flintlocks, wheellocks & matchlocks on a restrictive firearms licence? Either it is because of sheer ignorance, or they simply could not be bothered to distinguish a muzzle-loading pistol from a modern breech-loading pistol when they drafted the legislation. None of these pistols is capable of firing modern cartridge ammunition.


Please sign my petition asking the government to take primitive muzzle-loading pistols off the restrictive H class licence & place them with other muzzle-loading guns on the less restrictive B class licence.
Thank you.
Keith.

This is a matchlock muzzle-loading pistol, it requires a smouldering matchcord to make it fire.
This is a wheellock muzzle-loading pistol, it requires a key to wind up the lock, & a piece of iron pyrite rock to make it fire.
This is the most sophisticated of the muzzle-loading pistols that I want removing from the H class licence. This is a flintlock, it requires a piece of hard rock clamped in the jaws of the cock to make it fire. All three of these pistols require black powder & only black powder to be placed in the pan & down the muzzle of the barrel to make them fire.
How smart are you? Smarter than the average law maker? Do you think that in this day & age a criminal would even know how to use one of these guns let alone bother when they can easily access a modern gun?

Can my wife carry a specialty vehicle knife in her 4WD?

Question.

Subject : Specialty vehicle knives. Are they legal to carry?
Enter your comments in this box: : My wife has been given a specialty vehicle knife to carry in her 4WD. It is a clasp knife with a short blade, a seat belt cutter & a window breaker. We live on our property, but my wife makes frequent trips to town. The roads are often flooded as are the creeks.
Is it legal for my wife to carry this vehicle knife in her 4WD?
Thank you for your assistance.

Reply.

Thanks for contacting NSW Police Customer Assistance Unit. Please see below email in relation acceptable reasons for having a knife in a PUBLIC PLACE or SCHOOL.

With reference to 11C (2) of the Summary Offences Act, what is included as being reasonably necessary for a person to have custody of a knife?

The lawful pursuit of the person’s occupation, education or training

The preparation or consumption of food or drink

The participation in lawful entertainment, recreation or sport

The exhibition of knives for retail or other trade purposes

An organised exhibition by knife collectors

The wearing an official uniform

Genuine religious purposes, or

The custody is reasonably necessary in all circumstances during travel to or from or incidental to any of these activities, or

Where the custody is of a kind prescribed by the regulations.

Regards

S/C MURPHY

NOT the answer I was hoping for, obviously this is down to total ignorance on the part of the law makers, AGAIN!
So, carrying a knife in the car specifically for emergencies, ie breaking the window & cutting the seat belt is not legal !!!!!!!!! This must be a companion law to illegal armed self defence!!!!!!

The preparation or consumption of food or drink? The police have already confiscated my wife’s multi-tool folding scout knife that she carried for food preparation!!! So much for that one!!!
Honestly, our law is a total ass & it pi***s me off no end! What in the hell can we minorities do about it? Stuff all!

Can my wife carry a specialty vehicle knife in her 4WD?

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Question.

Subject : Specialty vehicle knives. Are they legal to carry?
Enter your comments in this box: : My wife has been given a specialty vehicle knife to carry in her 4WD. It is a clasp knife with a short blade, a seat belt cutter & a window breaker. We live on our property, but my wife makes frequent trips to town. The roads are often flooded as are the creeks.
Is it legal for my wife to carry this vehicle knife in her 4WD?
Thank you for your assistance.

Reply.

Thanks for contacting NSW Police Customer Assistance Unit. Please see below email in relation acceptable reasons for having a knife in a PUBLIC PLACE or SCHOOL.

With reference to 11C (2) of the Summary Offences Act, what is included as being reasonably necessary for a person to have custody of a knife?

The lawful pursuit of the person’s occupation, education or training

The preparation or consumption of food or drink

The participation in lawful entertainment, recreation or sport

The exhibition of knives for retail or other trade purposes

An organised exhibition by knife collectors

The wearing an official uniform

Genuine religious purposes, or

The custody is reasonably necessary in all circumstances during travel to or from or incidental to any of these activities, or

Where the custody is of a kind prescribed by the regulations.

Regards

S/C MURPHY

NOT the answer I was hoping for, obviously this is down to total ignorance on the part of the law makers, AGAIN!
So, carrying a knife in the car specifically for emergencies, ie breaking the window & cutting the seat belt is not legal !!!!!!!!! This must be a companion law to illegal armed self defence!!!!!!

The preparation or consumption of food or drink? The police have already confiscated my wife’s multi-tool folding scout knife that she carried for food preparation!!! So much for that one!!!
Honestly, our law is a total ass & it pi***s me off no end! What in the hell can we minorities do about it? Stuff all!

New Water Pump.

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I decided that as we have so much excess solar power I would be better off with an electric water pump to pump water from our lower collection 5000 gallon cement water tank to our upper house feed tank than the petrol fire pump we have been using. Survival wise we will probably always have 240 volt solar power, but we may not always have fuel!
So I purchased an electric water pump with what fittings I needed, & my wife came up with the idea of using a storage container to keep it in.

Power lead goes a short distance underground through some spare water pipe that I had & up into the power shed.

Australian Government denies our right to armed self defence.

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Cyril Watson says he was threatened with a screwdriver and a knife.Picture: 7 News.


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/crime/wembley-70-year-old-tells-of-terrifying-home-invasion-ng-b88704181z

In Australia we are denied the legal right to armed self defence, no guns, no capsicum spray & no tasers. People are getting raped, bashed, robbed & killed every day, & yet our government expects us to defend ourselves with our fists!!!
What is it going to take to make the majority of Australians stand up for other Australians & say enough is enough?! 

Fire & Security.

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This post is brought about from a link that was recommended by lonewolf. At that link & saw a popular image of an “all night burning fire”. Now on a winters night an all night fire may seem like a good idea, & there are several ways of accomplishing this, but post shtf an all night fire in my opinion is not a good idea.

Any fire small or large, day or night has the potential to attract unwanted guests, so an all night fire is going to at least double that risk. Post shtf, there will be no safe wilderness areas, people will be on the move, raiders are opportunists & a fire glowing in the night or the smell of smoke will draw them like ants to honey. Because I am a living historian, my historical treks have to be as authentic as possible. Now even today there are risks in camping out, but back in the 18th century those risks were far greater. So I set myself scenarios. Some nights I have camped with no fire, this requires knowledge of how to stay alive in winter with little bedding, because bedding is bulky & adds weight to your pack. It also requires knowledge regarding what foods to carry, because with no fire, you can not cook food, so you need to carry some food that can be eaten without having to cook it.

Other nights I do light a small fire in a fire hole. This is a scrape in the ground to contain the fire surrounded by rocks back & sides. The heat reflects off the rocks back into my shelter, & they help hide the fire from prying eyes. But a small fire does not last long once I have fallen asleep, & at some time in the night the cold will wake me & I will stoke the fire from my supplies under cover behind my bed & from a supply of wood at the end of my shelter. Despite the fact that I am always mindful & therefore alert to sounds in the forest, this waking up from the cold is for me a security measure. It is an opportunity to look & listen to the sounds around me before I make up my mind as to whether or not I should re light or stoke the fire.

If I had placed a large log on the fire to keep it going all night I would probably sleep soundly, certainly I would not be waking frequently because of the chill seeping through my bedding. This would create a security risk, one because as I have already said, the fire would be noticeably visible from a distance at night, & secondly because I would not be so alert. Just something for you to think about next time you are camping out & practicing your skills.

Keith.

Self Defence Law in Australia. REFERRAL TO LAW AND SAFETY COMMITTEE.

Wednesday 22 November 2017

REFERRAL TO LAW AND SAFETY COMMITTEE

John Barilaro Deputy Premier Minister for Regional NSW Minister for Skills Minister for Small Business Wednesday 22 November 2017 REFERRAL TO LAW AND SAFETY COMMITTEE The Deputy Premier and Minister for Regional NSW .

John Barilaro today wrote to the Legislative Assembly Committee on Law and Safety to request it inquire into the operation of the Firearms Act 2016 in relation to people to reasonably believe they are proportionately responding to a threat to them or their family. The Committee has since published the terms of reference which also include:

· The adequacy of protections for victims of a home invasion in responding to a threat;

· Previous incidents involving a response to a threat which resulted in the suspension of a firearm license; and

· The current awareness of firearms license holders of their rights and responsibilities.

Mr Barilaro said the referral to the Law and Safety Committee stems largely from an incident involving a Bungowannah Farmer David Dunstan. Mr Dunstan used an unloaded rifle to scare an intruder who came to his back door at 3AM on 14 September 2017 armed with a block of wood and a knife. His wife Andrea and their three children were at home asleep at the time. Mr Barilaro said that after meeting David and his wife Andrea in Albury on Monday 25 September 2017, he felt compelled to take action. “As a father of three daughters, David and Andrea’s story struck a nerve with me, as it did with so many people,” Mr Barilaro said. “The case raised a number of serious questions about one’s ability to defend their home and family,” he said. “I have referred this matter to the Committee and asked it to look at whether current legislation does enough to protect the victims of home invasion. “There is a lot of confusion about what our rights are to defend our homes and families from intruders, and this case has highlighted the need for the laws to be examined,” he said. Mr Barilaro said Mr Dunstan told him how upon seeing the intruder, he retrieved his unloaded rifle from the gun cupboard, and then encouraged the intruder into the passenger seat of his car. Mr Dunstan says when he drove up his driveway he was soon met by a police car which had been in the area investigating a similar incident. As part of the police investigation the offender was charged and remanded in custody. The next day police officers also seized all of Mr Dunstan’s guns and suspended his firearms license. On 3 October 2017 Andrea Dunstan also received a letter from the Licensing and Permits Authorities at the Firearms Registry, stating that her license would be subject to a special condition that prohibited her from storing or possessing firearms at their residential address or any address where her husband (Mr Dunstan) resides or frequents. MEDIA: Ellie Laing | Deputy Premier | 0427 066 603

Self Defence Law in Australia. REFERRAL TO LAW AND SAFETY COMMITTEE.

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Wednesday 22 November 2017

REFERRAL TO LAW AND SAFETY COMMITTEE

John Barilaro Deputy Premier Minister for Regional NSW Minister for Skills Minister for Small Business Wednesday 22 November 2017 REFERRAL TO LAW AND SAFETY COMMITTEE The Deputy Premier and Minister for Regional NSW .

John Barilaro today wrote to the Legislative Assembly Committee on Law and Safety to request it inquire into the operation of the Firearms Act 2016 in relation to people to reasonably believe they are proportionately responding to a threat to them or their family. The Committee has since published the terms of reference which also include:

· The adequacy of protections for victims of a home invasion in responding to a threat;

· Previous incidents involving a response to a threat which resulted in the suspension of a firearm license; and

· The current awareness of firearms license holders of their rights and responsibilities.

Mr Barilaro said the referral to the Law and Safety Committee stems largely from an incident involving a Bungowannah Farmer David Dunstan. Mr Dunstan used an unloaded rifle to scare an intruder who came to his back door at 3AM on 14 September 2017 armed with a block of wood and a knife. His wife Andrea and their three children were at home asleep at the time. Mr Barilaro said that after meeting David and his wife Andrea in Albury on Monday 25 September 2017, he felt compelled to take action. “As a father of three daughters, David and Andrea’s story struck a nerve with me, as it did with so many people,” Mr Barilaro said. “The case raised a number of serious questions about one’s ability to defend their home and family,” he said. “I have referred this matter to the Committee and asked it to look at whether current legislation does enough to protect the victims of home invasion. “There is a lot of confusion about what our rights are to defend our homes and families from intruders, and this case has highlighted the need for the laws to be examined,” he said. Mr Barilaro said Mr Dunstan told him how upon seeing the intruder, he retrieved his unloaded rifle from the gun cupboard, and then encouraged the intruder into the passenger seat of his car. Mr Dunstan says when he drove up his driveway he was soon met by a police car which had been in the area investigating a similar incident. As part of the police investigation the offender was charged and remanded in custody. The next day police officers also seized all of Mr Dunstan’s guns and suspended his firearms license. On 3 October 2017 Andrea Dunstan also received a letter from the Licensing and Permits Authorities at the Firearms Registry, stating that her license would be subject to a special condition that prohibited her from storing or possessing firearms at their residential address or any address where her husband (Mr Dunstan) resides or frequents. MEDIA: Ellie Laing | Deputy Premier | 0427 066 603

Police ‘lured’ into Melbourne backstreet battles, internal memo shows amid fears of gang merger

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Heavily armed riot police had to be called in to break up a Werribee party after the first officers to arrive at the Airbnb house were pelted with rocks. Source: 7 News.

Gangs forming an alliance, where could this lead?
Our government has left us defenceless due to gun control legislation & anti-self defence laws. What choices are we left with for our own self defence & the protection of our families?!

Xmas Wishes to All.

To those of you who celebrate Xmas, wherever you are, I wish you all the very best for this Xmas season & the year to follow.
Probably the worst threat to us all wherever we are in the New Year & years to come is climate change. The ice caps are melting as is the permafrost, here in Australia we are experiencing a severe heat wave. It is us who should have the final say in how this planet is cared for, NOT big business or the government. All they are interested in is lining their own pockets! This is something I will never understand. We can’t not think about our survival & the survival of our descendants at this time of year, but let’s not let this spoil the time we have with our families over this season.
Please take care on the roads if you have to travel, it is the other vehicles you have to watch out for! Don’t be in a rush to get to where you are going, remember, better late than never!!! 
Best wishes & sincere regards to all.
Keith.

Xmas Wishes to All.

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To those of you who celebrate Xmas, wherever you are, I wish you all the very best for this Xmas season & the year to follow.
Probably the worst threat to us all wherever we are in the New Year & years to come is climate change. The ice caps are melting as is the permafrost, here in Australia we are experiencing a severe heat wave. It is us who should have the final say in how this planet is cared for, NOT big business or the government. All they are interested in is lining their own pockets! This is something I will never understand. We can’t not think about our survival & the survival of our descendants at this time of year, but let’s not let this spoil the time we have with our families over this season.
Please take care on the roads if you have to travel, it is the other vehicles you have to watch out for! Don’t be in a rush to get to where you are going, remember, better late than never!!! 
Best wishes & sincere regards to all.
Keith.

Arctic permafrost thawing faster than ever, US climate study finds

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Climate change/Global warming is fast becoming the world’s biggest survival threat. Wake up Australians before we have to start living underground! What sort of a life would that be?!

How to join the fight to save your way of life

1) Our local MP is corrupt & there is no point in contacting him 2) you say nothing about the gun owners in Australia being fractured. They all have their preferences & don’t give a damn about others shooters/gun owners. So long as we are not backing each other, then we are fighting a lost cause 3) you mention nothing about demanding stronger penalties for gun crimes, we should be shouting this from the roof tops. We are not ALL good blokes, there are criminals amongst us & they need to be rooted out & given heavy sentences, not just a slap on the wrist & put back on the streets. This is what the government wants!!! 4) I gave up on the SSAA a long time ago, they are all for themselves & stuff you if you don’t do what you are told. Not a hope in hell of me being a member again, never!
Keith.

How to join the fight to save your way of life

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1) Our local MP is corrupt & there is no point in contacting him 2) you say nothing about the gun owners in Australia being fractured. They all have their preferences & don’t give a damn about others shooters/gun owners. So long as we are not backing each other, then we are fighting a lost cause 3) you mention nothing about demanding stronger penalties for gun crimes, we should be shouting this from the roof tops. We are not ALL good blokes, there are criminals amongst us & they need to be rooted out & given heavy sentences, not just a slap on the wrist & put back on the streets. This is what the government wants!!! 4) I gave up on the SSAA a long time ago, they are all for themselves & stuff you if you don’t do what you are told. Not a hope in hell of me being a member again, never!
Keith.

How to join the fight to save your way of life

1) Our local MP is corrupt & there is no point in contacting him 2) you say nothing about the gun owners in Australia being fractured. They all have their preferences & don’t give a damn about others shooters/gun owners. So long as we are not backing each other, then we are fighting a lost cause 3) you mention nothing about demanding stronger penalties for gun crimes, we should be shouting this from the roof tops. We are not ALL good blokes, there are criminals amongst us & they need to be rooted out & given heavy sentences, not just a slap on the wrist & put back on the streets. This is what the government wants!!! 4) I gave up on the SSAA a long time ago, they are all for themselves & stuff you if you don’t do what you are told. Not a hope in hell of me being a member again, never!
Keith.

Could Skynet Become a Reality???!!!

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They were asked why if this is so dangerous would they consider doing it anyway, their reply was that they wanted to see if they could! The problem is that intelligence is not that simple, not that defined. We have feelings, empathy, that is not intelligence. A computer brain with AI will learn far more than a human can in our entire lifetime & do it in seconds. Now think what that means! Imagine this AI brain realising that it could be controlled or limited, imagine if it decided to send all it knows to another computer across the other side of the world. Imagine if it decided that humans were no longer required & were in fact hampering its progress! There are computerised robotics worldwide in manufacturing workshops. These AI computers never sleep. Imagine what could be built overnight without us even knowing it was happening?
It is a little like global warming, we can set up simulations to see what will happen, but there are so many variables involved that we don’t know exactly when it will all hit the fan. One more chunk of ice falls away from a glacier, this cools the water quicker than we had anticipated. Suddenly the temperatures drop in the North during summer, & by Autumn the UK is buried in snow! We are looking at the unknown, & we have no control over it. I think AI could easily go the same way.
Keith.


The Government is Trying to Gag GetUp & its Petitions!!!

Fight for our independence

The Turnbull Government just introduced a “GetUp clause” specifically designed to curb our movement’s power. We need hundreds more people joining the GetUp Crew to protect our independent movement.

Eric Abetz and his hard right cronies know they’re about to fail for the third time to force Getup members to become an “associated entity” of the ALP and the Greens.

Even worse, they’re trying to legislate a gag order on charities fighting to protect the rights of children, people who are homeless and our environment – while letting multinational corporations cut politicians blank cheques.

This is more than an attack on civil society – it’s a sinister abuse of government power to silence those who speak out against it.

We need to defend the right of everyday people to participate in democracy and civil society. And that means fighting back with everything we’ve got. Can you join the Getup Crew ? 

Australian Gun Laws & Anti-Self defence laws leave Citizens At Risk!

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Humane Right to Armed Self defence???

The right of self-defense (also called, when it applies to the defense of another, alter ego defense, defense of others, defense of a third person) is the right for people to use reasonable force or defensive force, for the purpose of defending one’s own life or the lives of others, including, in certain circumstances, the use of deadly force.[1]

If a defendant uses defensive force because of a threat of deadly or grievous harm by the other person, or a reasonable perception of such harm, the defendant is said to have a “perfect self-defense” justification.[2] If defendant uses defensive force because of such a perception, and the perception is not reasonable, the defendant may have an “imperfect self-defense” as an excuse.[2]

Thwarted by the demise of its global gun ban treaty, the United Nations declares the human right of self-defense null and void

As far as I can tell, no country is listed for restricting the natural, civil and human right to self-defense. So, it appears Human Rights Watch doesn’t care that people are prevented by their governments from protecting themselves. 

In legal terms, Australians have a right of self-defence. While some states rely on the common law and others have it enshrined in statute, the right itself is never questioned. Moreover, juries consistently refuse to convict those charged with serious offences whenever self-defence is made out.

What we don’t have is the practical ability to exercise that right. Possessing any object specifically for the purpose of self-defence, lethal or non-lethal, is a criminal offence. There are many women, raped and/or murdered, who would have been liable to prosecution had they been carrying anything that might have saved them.

The massive Police and government anti-terror apparatus failed yet again to protect the public. How many more reminders do the public need that the state is not their god and saviour? This is not a sleight at Police, but as we’ve discussed at length previously they are reactionary only and in terms of firearms, held to a lower standard than Category H licence holders. Even Queensland Police admit this.

It’s time to get serious about empowering the public by letting them have the opportunity to defend themselves, and end this useless and dangerous obsession with denying people the basic means and right to practical non-lethal and licenced lethal forms of self-defence, in the name of ‘muh public safety’.

RESIDENTS have backed calls from the Shooters Union Australia for the government to clarify and strengthen self-defence laws.

SUA vice president David Brown wants the ambiguity around gun laws, which leave licensed firearms owners at risk of prosecution for defending their homes from intruders, clarified.

Mr Brown this week told The Chronicle guns were the “only means of levelling the playing field against an aggressor”, and his view has earned support from readers.

Human Rights Act 2004 Australia.

9 Right to life (1) Everyone has the right to life. In particular, no-one may be arbitrarily deprived of life.

11 Protection of the family and children Note Family has a broad meaning (see ICCPR General Comment 19 (39th session, 1990)). (1) The family is the natural and basic group unit of society and is entitled to be protected by society. (2) Every child has the right to the protection needed by the child because of being a child, without distinction or discrimination of any kind.

18 Right to liberty and security of person (1) Everyone has the right to liberty and security of person.

Part 3B Limits on human rights 28 Human rights may be limited (1) Human rights may be subject only to reasonable limits set by laws that can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society. (2) In deciding whether a limit is reasonable, all relevant factors must be considered, including the following: (a) the nature of the right affected; (b) the importance of the purpose of the limitation; (c) the nature and extent of the limitation; (d) the relationship between the limitation and its purpose; (e) any less restrictive means reasonably available to achieve the purpose the limitation seeks to achieve.

There is nothing in this human rights document that actually states that we have a right to defend ourselves or our families. The United Nations says that we have NO right to defend ourselves or our families against harm!


Message to the The Border Mail Newspaper!

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Firearm locked onto stranger’s stomach after GPS makes a wrong turn.

This is blatant biased reporting, the title should read ” A 70 year old pensioner defending herself charged with an offence”

How in the hell was this lady to know these people did not mean her harm? Indeed, how do we know they did not intend her harm? A woman alone is faced with several people on her doorstep & she is genuinely concerned for her safety. We only have the word of these intruders that they were lost, would you believe a story like that?! We still only have their word that they did not intend a home invasion & that the gun was aimed directly at them!

This is morally wrong, this woman SHOULD have the human right to take precautions to keep herself safe. These government anti-self defence laws need changing or scrapping. People are suffering home invasions all the time now, people are getting injured, raped & murdered & the government denies us the right to purchase or carry ANYTHING specifically intended for our defence or the defence of our families.
You should be fighting for our rights to defend ourselves, not fighting against our human rights.

Keith H. Burgess.

If you believe that citizens should have the right to use a gun for self defence against a home invasion, then please email or write the Border Mail regarding this article in their newspaper.

Editorial – newsroom@bordermail.com.au 

A 70-year-old pensioner defends herself & gets charged with an offense!!!

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Now this is morally wrong in all ways. This woman could not possibly know that these people were simply lost & meant no harm, indeed, WE don’t know this for sure. Is the law saying that this woman should open her door to strangers not knowing if they may mean her harm? This woman did the right thing in regards to protecting herself, WHY should she take the strangers word that they were lost & meant no harm? What would you expect a home invader to say facing a women holding a shotgun?!


These government anti-self defence laws are wrong in every way & they need changing or scrapping. We should have a human right to take precautions to protect ourselves when we feel that we may be under threat. This woman seriously & genuinely felt that she was in some danger & took precautions. No one was harmed. Now her gun has been confiscated so she is no longer able to defend herself. DO YOU THINK THIS IS MORALLY RIGHT?

http://www.bordermail.com.au/story/5098903/firearm-locked-onto-strangers-stomach-after-gps-makes-a-wrong-turn/

The Fuck-it Point

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As I see it we have to keep on trying to improve our own environment, & keep trying to inform others. Are we a minority? Probably, but we are so distant from one another it is hard to tell. Looking at all those millions of people in our cities you wonder if life could ever be any other way for them, how can they possibly change their environment?

We are doing the right thing right now, it may not be perfect, but it is the best we can do with what we have to work with. Like this video says, we have to survive the system whilst trying to change it. Personally I don’t see it changing, we do the best we can to delay the inevitable, we teach our kids & our grandkids how to survive what is to come. Governments are corrupt & greedy for power & money & the majority of people will vote for that government over & over again. They don’t want to know about global warming, it is too big for them to handle. They don’t want to hear about the genocide in West Papua, it is so removed from their lifestyle, their way of life. They are too busy trying to keep up with the Jones’s to worry about the demise of a people a world away.

 I think before anything is done to save this planet it will all hit the fan. Maybe it won’t start in our countries, maybe the protests & riots will start somewhere else & start to spread. Maybe one day there will be enough people who see the light & say f**k it, enough is enough.
Keith.

WARNING!!! MICRO DRONES KILLER ARMS ROBOTS – AUTONOMOUS ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE – WARNING !!

If this technology were to get into the wrong hands, the results could be devastating.  The government would be “the wrong hands”!!!

Imagine an assassin that can’t be traced. Imagine if anyone could be eliminated for whatever reason & there would be no one to be held responsible. Big companies are having people assassinated all the time, this AI will make it all that much easier for them to kill so many more people who get in their way.
Imagine this in the hands of Terrorists!!!

 

Gun Control: Victorian Police recommendations: the real story

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DC Shane Patton
A good regulator:

consults;

is open and transparent; and

tests its proposals with key stakeholders before submitting them to government.

Then there’s Victoria Police ….

As many of you know, we started 2017 chasing ‘recommendations’ Victoria Police made to the state government to change YOUR laws, but refused to consult on.

First there’s the bad news: we lost the case.  However the good news is that we found out what those recommendations were through other means.

Not only that, but the evidence submitted by Victoria Police confirmed the accuracy of the information we received, and revealed how much lobbying a member of VicPol’s Executive Branch did behind the scenes.

A bit of background …

In March 2016, Victoria Police told the Herald Sun that they had made ‘recommendations’ to the government on “firearm law reform”. This followed around a dozen articles in the Herald Sun over the preceding months where Victoria Police expressed concerns about firearm thefts, coinciding with the 20thanniversary of the Port Arthur shootings.

In February this year, the CFCV put in a FOI request to find out what those recommendations were.

Our FOI application was rejected on the basis that the recommendations were “Cabinet in Confidence” and also that they were “working documents”, which are two exemptions which are available under FOI laws.

The problem we had with this was that these protections are normally available to government departments rather than agencies like the Victoria Police, whose job is to enforce the law, not make it.

Our VCAT action

In May, we hired a lawyer – Avi Furstenberg from Furstenberg Law –  and a barrister – Robert Cameron – to fight the decision in VCAT (and for their help and patience, we’re truly grateful. They did a great job).

To help fund the case, hundreds of shooters chipped in to raise what we needed to run the case – and we’re also sincerely grateful for their (and your) support.

Over the past few weeks, we’ve had a Directions Hearing, a Compulsory Conference and an “admin mention” and finally on November 13th, the hearing.

The decision was ‘reserved’ which meant that we received it by email around the middle of last week.

We lost the case because VCAT agreed that Victoria Police should be able to enjoy the protection of Cabinet (which we still have a problem with, but it is the way the law is).

What we found out from the case

We learnt a number of things from the evidence VicPol provided, including the events which led to how the recommendations came about.  They are:

1.  That it was Deputy Commissioner, Shane Patton, who liaised with the Police Minister’s office.  Specifically, Victoria Police’s statement advises that:“In around February 2016, Crime Command, Victoria Police instituted a legislative reform proposal around firearms legislation. The proposal was of utmost importance to Crime Command and was targeted at decreasing firearms related offending in Victoria.”  

It also stated: “In late May 2016, it became clear that both Crime Command and Deputy Commissioner Patton (the accountable Executive Command member) wanted to ensure that the importance of this proposal for various legislative changes in relation to firearms was fully understood at Ministerial level” and that “DC Patton wanted to brief the Minister directly with concrete proposals for reform due to the significance of the proposals.”.

At the time this started, the Police Minister was Robyn Scott.  Lisa Neville took over the portfolio in May, which is when Patton decided to start briefing the (new) minister directly.

2. That the Department of Justice and Regulation (DOJR) was involved in discussions about the proposals and organising for the matter to go to Cabinet. DOJR hosts the Firearms Consultative Committee (FCC) but once again, decided to keep it in the dark.

DOJR has done this before: several years ago it developed new regulations hiking firearm dealer fees up by up to 600% which would have driven several of them out of business.

While we were able to beat that, it is clear DOJR, like Victoria Police, has a problem in being a good regulator;

3. That the recent Firearm Amendment Bill, which proposed the introduction of Firearm Prohibition Orders and other things such as changing what constitutes trafficking of firearms came from the recommendations; and

4.  That the recommendations went to Cabinet.  Twice.

The first time is to secure the government’s approval of the concept – called “Approval in Principle” – while the second is where Cabinet gets to see the detail of what eventually goes to parliament – that stage is called “Bill at Cabinet”.

We know from VicPol’s statement that the recommendations were sent after the AIP date had communicated to VicPol by the Department.  It means the recommendations were sent after Deputy Commissioner Patton had secured the Minister’s agreement to take the matter to Cabinet. That’s why VCAT ruled in their favour.

.. but we know what the recommendations are

You would think that because we lost the case, that we don’t know what the recommendations are.

Wrong.   Shortly after filing our matter in VCAT (in May) we were contacted by a source who was encouraged by the action we had instituted, who then sent us a detailed email outlining the recommendations – and what the government did with them. (Thank you source, you know who you are …).

Several months later, Victoria Police’s statement provided evidence which corroborated the information we had earlier received (in particular, it verified the origin of the Firearms Amendment Bill, the involvement of Cabinet and the timing of when these events happened).  Our crystal ball proved to be right.

So, in the absence of information to the contrary, it’s pretty clear the information we received is correct.  VicPol, DOJR and Labor are all welcome to refute this, but it would be up to them to prove us wrong.

The recommendations

The recommendations are listed below.  They were agreed by Cabinet, which decided to defer them until after the 2018 Victorian State Election, “so as not to alienate shooters”.

The recommendations are to:

Disarm most cash-in-transit security guards – Cabinet has agreed to remove firearms from plain clothed security guards carrying cash and other valuables, who make up 80-90 percent of the cash-in transit industry. This will threaten the safety of those guards, and the viability of the businesses who supply the equipment they use.  (If relevant industry bodies want to stop this from happening, then they need to get political.  They can email us at admin@firearmscouncil.org.au to find out how);

Greater search and seizure powers – (in addition to the Firearm Prohibition Orders which we already know about), these powers will extend to allowing police to check your firearm storage at any time of day or night, without any warning or a warrant;

The right to reclassify any firearm – Cabinet agreed with police that they – not parliament – should be able to reclassify any firearm, for any reason, and without the right of appeal.

The abolition of the Firearms Appeal Committee – this will remove the ability of shooters to appeal decisions made by Victoria Police (for example, something relating to licence applications) to the Firearms Appeals Committee. This means shooters will need to take the more expensive option of hiring lawyers to take their matters to VCAT or court; and

Increased penalties for firearm offences and changing what constitutes trafficking firearms. The issue of what constitutes trafficking has already appeared in the Firearms Amendment Bill (currently before parliament), but not the ‘increased penalties’.  Cabinet agreed to increase the penalties for minor transgressions of the law, such as leaving a couple of 22s rolling around the floor of the ute.

If Victoria Police or government wish to correct the record, then they are free to do so by producing the source documents we were pursuing, however the information we have been given accords with the evidence given by Victoria Police.

In the absence of this, we are entitled to take these as matters of Labor policy.

Hopefully exposing these particular recommendations will make them go away for now – but more needs to be done to make sure the regulator doesn’t try something like this again (it’s happened before, so is likely to happen again).

At the end of the day we do not have a problem with laws which legitimately target criminals.  However we have to take action where there are deliberate efforts to bypass our community on laws which directly affect it. It’s as much about “good regulatory practice” (eg being open, transparent and consultative …) than anything else.

If Victoria Police can’t or won’t behave like a good regulator, it will never be able to suggest good laws – which means the crims continue to get away.

Stay in touch

With the next state election coming up in November 2018, it’s important that shooters like yourself follow the CFCV:

on Facebook by Liking our page; or

joining our email list (on the link in the comments area with this video)

Following us means we can get pro-shooting voting advice out to you before you vote.  That way, we will be able to use the political process to stop things like this happening.

It’ll also make it easier for you to work out who to vote for when you’re standing in front of your ballot papers unsure about who the candidates are or what they stand for!  We’ll go through the parties and candidates who will be contesting the election, what their policies are, and where their preferences will go.

Home Invasion & Attempted Murder. Give us our human rights, give us our guns back.

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https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/38055974/gang-of-thieves-attempt-to-run-down-mum-baby-after-stealing-car/
The government claims we do not need guns for self defence. I beg to differ!!!

It is even illegal in Australia for law abiding citizens to purchase or carry pepper spray or tasers. I say forget about the pepper spray & tasers, we want to be legally allowed to purchase & carry firearms for the purpose of self defence & for the defence of our families. This is a human right that we Australian citizens are being denied by our government.

Gun confiscation was never anything to do with the safety of Australian citizens, the fact that there have been no mass shootings since the Port Arthur massacre has nothing to do with it. People are killing other people with knives, such as the massacre in China, & the terrorist attack in London, no guns were used in these killings. But we NEED to be able to use a gun for our defence, do you really want to have to get into a knife fight or defend yourself with just your fists against a bigger person? This is not sensible or practicle.

Home Invasion & Attempted Murder. Give us our human rights, give us our guns back.



https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/38055974/gang-of-thieves-attempt-to-run-down-mum-baby-after-stealing-car/
The government claims we do not need guns for self defence. I beg to differ!!!

It is even illegal in Australia for law abiding citizens to purchase or carry pepper spray or tasers. I say forget about the pepper spray & tasers, we want to be legally allowed to purchase & carry firearms for the purpose of self defence & for the defence of our families. This is a human right that we Australian citizens are being denied by our government.

Gun confiscation was never anything to do with the safety of Australian citizens, the fact that there have been no mass shootings since the Port Arthur massacre has nothing to do with it. People are killing other people with knives, such as the massacre in China, & the terrorist attack in London, no guns were used in these killings. But we NEED to be able to use a gun for our defence, do you really want to have to get into a knife fight or defend yourself with just your fists against a bigger person? This is not sensible or practicle.

North Korea claims new ‘significantly more’ powerful missile puts entire US in range, & Australia!

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So the whole of Australia is now in range! We are only just hearing of this & the USA has known it for days!

https://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/38054278/north-korea-claims-new-icbm-missile-puts-entire-us-in-range/

Human Rights. David Leyonhjelm is correct: Australians should be able to arm themselves against terror

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These basic human rights are:

Universal: they belong to all of us – everybody in the world.

Inalienable: they cannot be taken away from us.

Indivisible and interdependent: governments should not be able to pick and choose which rights are respected.

Article 1 Everyone is born free and equal in dignity and with rights.

Article 2 You should never be discriminated against for any reason. Rights belong to all people, whatever our differences.

Article 3 Everyone has the rights to life, liberty and security.

Article 4 No-one shall be held in slavery or servitude.

 Article 5 No-one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

Article 6 You have the right to be treated as a person in the eyes of the law. Article 7 You have the right to be treated by the law in the same way as everyone else. Everyone has a right to protection against violations of their human rights.

Article 8 If your rights under law are violated, you have the right to see justice done in a court or tribunal.

Article 9 No-one shall be subject to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile. Article 10 You have the right to a fair and public trial by an independent and impartial tribunal.

Article 11 Everyone is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty in a fair trial. No one should be charged with a criminal offence for an act which wasn’t an offence at the time the act was done.

Article 12 No-one has the right to intrude in your private life or interfere with your home and family without good reason. No-one has the right to attack your good name without reason.

Article 13 You have the right to freedom of movement within your country. Everyone has the right to leave a country and to return home.

Article 14 You have the right to seek and to enjoy asylum from persecution in other countries. You may not invoke this right if fleeing just laws in your own country.

Article 15 You have the right to a nationality.

Article 16 You have the right to marry and to raise a family. Men and women have the same rights when they are married and when they are separated. Article 17 You have the right to own property and it cannot randomly be taken away from you.

Article 18 You have the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion and to peacefully express those beliefs in teaching, practice and worship. Article 19 You have the right to freedom of opinion and expression.

Article 20 You have the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.

Article 21 You have the right to take part in the government of your country. Article 22 As a member of society, you have a right to social security.

Article 23 You have the right to work, to good working conditions, to equal pay for equal work and to form and join unions.

Article 24 You have the right to rest and leisure.

Article 25 You have the right to a decent life, including enough food, clothing, housing, medical care and social services.

Article 26 You have the right to an education.

Article 27 No-one may stop you from participating in the cultural life of your community.

Article 28 You have the right to live in the kind of world where your rights and freedoms are respected.

Article 29 We all have a responsibility to the people around us and should protect their rights and freedoms.

Article 30 There is nothing in this declaration that justifies any person or country taking away the rights to which we are all entitled.

The Australian government has denied us a human rights, as law abiding citizens we SHOULD have the right to protect ourselves & our families, but that right has been taken from us with a law which states that we are not legally allowed to purchase or carry: Pepper spray, Tasers, or guns for the sole purpose of self defence & the defence of our families!
This law does not stop crime, it does not stop home invasions, muggings, beatings, rapes or murders. All it does is leave us defenceless.
So what are you going to do about this? Our government system is totally corrupt to the core, there is little point in begging to the government. I have started petitions, but hardly anyone bothers to sign! You still think we live in a free country? Think again. Most people are totally apathetic to the loss of our human rights & exist with their heads buried in the sand.
Australian Human Rights Commission.
”The Australian Government has agreed to uphold and respect many of these human rights treaties” . But not all!

Grandfather, 83, left with smashed skull after brutal home invasion.

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Barry Lawless, 83, was savagely bashed by a home intruder. Source: 7 News

This is why our anti-self defence laws need changing. We are not legally allowed to purchase or carry ANYTHING for self defence, no pepper sprays, no tasers, & no guns. HOW are we supposed to protect ourselves & our families?! This is not a one off, these home invasions, attacks, killings & rapes are happening all the time & more frequently. The police can’t protect us, and the government will NOT protect us or even give us the human right to protect ourselves.
Remember, when voting time comes, vote first for those that support the right to own guns for self defence, vote for pro gun candidates. Do NOT vote for the Liberals or Labor.